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« on: April 01, 2009, 03:18:19 PM »

I'm currently working on a playmat for Vini and we thought it might be a nice idea if I posted about the mats production as it developed.

First up a few general things, if you read through this blog as it develops and think you might like a playmat designed just come talk to me while I'm at the shop or send me a PM, as a general outline something like

<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3403834339_efa9945248_b.jpg" width="1024" height="592" alt="transformers playmat1" />

will obviously be less expensive than something like

<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3589/3404644256_3c341ec08e_b.jpg" width="1024" height="597" alt="alienplaymatwhole" />

These mats are done with art marker pens I can also do digital designs which can oviously contain more detail and complexity such as


However i only provide the image files either online or on CD the actual printing stage is not included

Anyway on to Vini's playmat.
The client wants:
Highly detailed colour mat
Includes elements from MTG, yugioh and other interests
Some reference to the shop and or MFM in general
Completed by the time we roll out to the nationals at the end of april.

After a number of discussions the first element to fall into place or rather an element that Vini would quite like in the image is the magic symbols fanned out around 1 or more side of the mat and fading into the distance, the first thing I came up with was to make them zones on a duel disk,



And then went and gave it to a Disney character wearing a team MFM hoody, points to Scot for being the first person to work out it was Mickey mouse. Vini liked the idea of the duel disk however he already had a Disny playmat we quickly focused in on a more MTG orientated design



laquatus champion holding a duel disk thats rather Orky in nature, I hadnt at this point worked out how i was going to do the head.
Next up is a series of images covering more concepts involving the champion



1. laquatus champion front on, we need to get rid of the pants but otherwise the general blockyness and square jaw work quite well.
2. Champion with head back, this version allows for the MFM logo to be branded on his chest but loses a lot of impact
3. integrated with the mana symbols as a test, its worth remembering that these sketches are meant to represent the whole playmat being filled up, he looks a bit like the hulk here and the arms are going to need a lot of work.
4. Adding dynamics, in this sketch he is holding a yugioh card and swiping it around him leaving the mtg mana symbols as it moves , a nice idea but would require a test in colour to see if it works. arms are much better however body is more simplistic and the head has lost some impact
5. He's gotten a lot Orkyer in this image as I test other possible poses the next stage would involve sketching visara and seeing how best to intergrate the 2 into the whole.

Finally for now a sketch of the champion in a different pose while I wont most likely use this, some of the extra detail my find its way into the final image remember the version on the playmat will most likely be larger and therefore need more detail to fill the space


I hope you enjoyed this trip though playmat design, look out for more posts as the design progresses.

edit - figured out how to show pictures from flickr, more images soon

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2009, 05:22:12 PM »

After looking at the images on here i think the final picture shown is really cool (the pose is awesome - although i prefer the arms and head in the other pictures

Head from pic 3 obv needs to be repositioned to fit the body of the pic above
Arms from pic 4 especially the MFM on the main arm - cos they is nice and chunky

I also like the swiping idea of the YuGi card across the mana symbols of MTG - not sure how viable that would be to draw on but then maybe i could get it printed

Nice work though
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2009, 08:39:37 PM »

lol. you mat designs are sooo awasome. i wish i could get one. but sadly, im near enough skint.

EDIT: Yes ive got a point! 1up!
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 05:29:03 PM »

I like image 4!!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 10:49:43 AM »

Thanks for the comments and feedback so far through the wonders of modern technoly heres an image montarged together of best bits of the champion


Ok next up is visara, fist thing to do is try and replicate how the card looks


She looks ok quite dynamic however the front on view and and obvious directional lighting may cause a problem later when trying to work all the images together. lets experiment a bit, mix things up




A verity of different poses, i think the main thing learnt here is that the snakes need to look like snakes rather than slivers so


Perhaps the snakes will end up with the yugioh element symbols on their heads , we will get back to them later, although at this rate there are going ot be quite a few MFM's hidden in the image.

Fact time: standard yugioh playmats are 24 by 14 inches in size, thats slightly longer than 2 pieces of A4 and about one and a half pieces of A4 high, which is fine until you want to scan the finished mat into the computer using an A4 scanner and find you have to do it in 6 pieces. I mention this because the final image for today was stitched together at 1 to 1 scale (scaled down for the web)

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Ignore the red to a certain extent its just there to predict the line of the curve, after trying a verity of vasra's I can see I may have to design some more to get them intergrated right, the champion in the image is a mash up including the legs from the final image in the last post, he's ok but will need to have more arms built especially on the left side.

Well thats it for now, next time probably more montages as we head towards creating a integrated image.
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 03:18:15 PM »

The final sketch is done as one image on an A2 sheet of paper, up till this point all my playmats had been draw as individual components and then arranged for final composition its an ok way of doing things but can leave the image not looking as cohesive as you would sometimes like, anyway drawing the large scale image turned out to be a lot of fun and after a number of attempts I finally had an image I could present to the client.

Image approved its on to the next step, scanning and initual digital blocking in.
Even if I'm going to be creating the playmat by hand in the end using the computer allows for quick changes and additions and you can always print the updated version back out and then go back to the tracing onto the mat stage, in this instance i also wanted to get an idea of how the gradients on the mana symbol areas may work.

So after some initial blocking in of colour and doing a bit of extra detail in a few area hears where we are up to so far



the placeholder text gives you an idea of where the final web address will end up, and there are a number of areas that could do with extra details added more yugioh monsters for example, i do quite like the luminosity the digital version provides.

I could at this point start to draw by hand but I think i may go on and complete the digital version
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 05:22:40 PM »

lol that playmat looks to good!
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 05:23:39 PM »

yeah awsome i agree with scot!
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 07:44:18 PM »

I love Image 4 it is a great picture and would look awesome in colour.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 08:55:44 PM »

yeah that mat is awsome
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 09:40:37 AM »

That does look great tim.

I too would suggest that you continue to do it digitally Tim - I am a bit of a fussy bugger so being able to change it quickly and easily will make your job lot easier.

But yeh likeing it muchly so far!

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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 02:08:45 PM »

OK so it has been a while since my last post but thats what happens when you have to force your PC to think it doesn't have a gfx card in it to get it to work, anywho this time round we are going to look at the playmats text.

The first thing to do was choose a font for the text 'Mad for miniatures' I went though quite a number of designs but nothing really suited it (I may show them at some point but this is going to be quite an image heavy post and they are not as interesting) So I'm doing design after design when it hits me why design something new when the perfect font is plastered over the outside of the shop, not only that but it would act to tie everything into the brand. One tuesday morning sitting outside the shop and several pieces of paper later I had what i needed to start work on the computer.

At this point the word 'For' had to be designed based on the original text the R was easy as there was already one of those the O and F took a little longer, then came the U in miniatures. If you have ever been to the shop you will probably have noticed the U is made using the top of a staff Naruto is holding and since he's not going to be included on the playmat it seemed a little silly to keep it the same design so 2 options make a U like i did the F and O or be more creative... not really a difficult choice Cheesy

So heres the plan design something that looks like a U or can pass for one, it doesn't need to be exact people only read the first and last letters of words if they are the correct length, that ties in with either the shop the stuff on the playmat or stuff the client likes, oh and it has to work at relatively small scales.

1:Winged sword - Click here for Large Image


2:CoDMW2 Heat sensor - Click here for Large Image


3:Ork Face - Click here for Large Image


4:Dragon -  Click here for Large Image


5:Wings (Light) - Click here for Large Image


6:Wings (Dark) - Click here for Large Image


7:Monster Reborn - Click here for Large Image


8:Breeze - Click here for Large Image


9:Sprue - Click here for Large Image
And here for an alternate version


And finaly to tie everything back to the very first post
10: Explosive - Click here for Large Image


Breeze may be al little on the tall side (or it may fit perfectly in a gap in that area of the playmat but if not it can aways be scaled down) and the sprue images may need the white areas removed although i have a feeling they wont have the same impact without them but other than those minor issues I hope you enjoyed this glimpse onto design, the final version of the text will most likely be further detailed with a subtle pattern of some sort running through the red or yellow or all sections of the text but thats a little further on.

Meanwhile I'll be trying to make sure one of my hard drive's doesn't die (I hate computers sometimes) and looking for magic cards that may be good inspiration for U's
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 07:12:39 PM »

Amazing! Thats all i have to say Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 02:32:16 PM »

Quick update, a few logo samples and some general playmat stuff

Ultra 1: - click here for larger image


Ultra 2: - click here for larger image


Bolas 1: - click here for larger image


Galactus 1: - click here for larger image


Secondly one of the Antics/Plymouth guys asked if i could do a lightsworn playmat and I finaly got a chance to get the sketch done, so if your on the forum or someone else remembers who it was can you either pm me or come talk to me at MFM on a saturday otherwise this one will eventually be available for other people to chose.


Finally the Armour master, Stardust/debris dragon, and Oppression sketches are done (Ok so haying looked at the card in the first time in forever properly oppression doesn't need anything with it) so again if those people who asked for them talk to me on a saturday I will have them with me.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2010, 06:02:22 AM »

very nice work tim....
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